Ray, Thanks for re-stating policy. We all appreciate it. Ken -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ray Anderson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:49 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Recruiter Postings si-list- After two have shown up in a single day, I think a re-statement of the si-list policy on job postings is in order. The policy is iterated in the "welcome aboard" message sent out when a person subscribes to si-list, but it seems that periodically a reiteration is in order. It has been a si-list policy that job postings may be made by working engineers and hiring managers to fill positions in their organizations. Such postings may be made occasionaly and should include a brief description of the available position, and a phone # or e-mail address so that those interested may follow-up. Postings by recruiters (head-hunters), HR departments and such are discouraged. SI-list is _not_ to used as a source of clients for these sort of businesses. Even though today's economy has forced a number of our colleagues to seek new employers, allowing unchecked numbers of recruitment messages to be posted to si-list would soon degrade the technical signal-to-noise ratio on the list. With a subscribership in excess of 3000 people worldwide, if just a small percentage of the subscribers were to post commercial recruitment messages we would soon be up to our collective ears in such traffic. To Summarize: ------------- Job Postings by working engineers or hiring managers are OK to post provided that they are only posted occassionaly and the postings are brief and to the point. (Don't make them look like a display add out of the Sunday Newspaper). Take all follow-up traffic off list. Job Postings by commercial recruiting entities (Job Recruiters, Head Hunters, Employment Agencies, HR Departments and the like) are generally discouraged. Please find another venue for your activities. If in doubt of the appropriatness of a job related posting, feel free to contact me off-list to discuss. Also on a related topic, but from the opposite side of the fence, the blind posting of resume's to the list is discouraged. A simple message stating that you are available in the job market and a short succinct listing of your qualifications and contact info is OK. Please don't attach your resume to the message which will be forwarded to 3000+ people. Provide a web URL or e-mail address to enable potential employers to obtain your resume'. Regards, Ray Anderson si-list administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu