Hi Rich, If I understand your question correctly, you do not need to be concerned if the line is properly terminated, that is, terminated in an impedance matching the characteristic impedance of the line. The "resonance" issue you are hearing about has to do with the physics of transmission lines. In the case of a quarter wave section connecting a driver to a load (or a stub off a bus), the driving point impedance will be the inverse of the normalized load impedance times the characteristic impedance of the line. If your load impedance is almost an open circuit, your driving point impedance will be almost zero. The impedance as a function of frequency for this system, operating near the quarter wave frequency of the section, will behave much like series RLC for an open circuit load and a parallel RLC for a short circuit at the load. Thus the often cited resonant circuit concept. While it is similar to a classical RLC tank circuit it is not exactly the same. The impedance function of a line section is periodic in frequency. The impedance function of a RLC tank circuit is not. This transmission line effect is brought about by wave reflections on the line. For a quarter wavelength line terminated in an open circuit, the reflected voltage wave arrives back at the driving point 180 degrees out of phase because it has traversed the quarter wave section twice. This will be true for any odd multiple of a quarter wavelength terminated in an open circuit. Of course if you match the termination to the line, there is no reflection and no issue. For signal integrity, you must carefully manage reflected waves. It is not just quarter wave sections (and their multiples) that are problematic, although they can be particularly bad. Any large, long delay reflection has the potential to create co-symbol or inter-symbol interference directly or indirectly through cross talk. I would highly recommend looking at the transmission line section in any one of a number of basic texts on signal integrity, EM fields, or RF and microwave engineering. The fundamentals usually require a chapter or less and are not too difficult. I hope I answered your question. Good luck! Rob Hinz Senior Electromagnetics Specialist SiQual Corporation rob@xxxxxxxxxx phone (503)885-1231 x30 fax (503)885-0550 http://www.siqual.com At 10:38 AM 11/14/2001 -0800, richard hill wrote: >Hi all, > >When laying out a high speed trace which is properly terminated >is it necessary to keep in mind the quarter wavelength scenario. >What exactly is the significance of the quarter wavelength transmission >line. I know it has something to do with a resonant >circuit but do not understand it fully. Any input will be very >educational. > >Thanks, >Rich > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Send a cool gift with your E-Card >http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > Rob Hinz Senior Electromagnetics Specialist SiQual Corporation rob@xxxxxxxxxx phone (503)885-1231 x30 fax (503)885-0550 http://www.siqual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu