Hi, I have a driver and receiver IBIS file, both made from the bench. When I simulate a topology of the driver to receiver with termination, I see more ringing than an equivalent setup in the lab. When I remove the package data from both the driver and the receiver, then my simulated results correlate to the lab results. The I-V data was extracted from the bench, and the devices were in packages. Nothing has been done to "filter" the effects of the package in the I-V data. It seems that when the RLC package parsitics information is added to the IBIS files under the Package section, then the package is being "double counted" and this is adding to the excess ringing I am seeing in simulations. (These are differential devices with a 100 Ohm termination across 1 inch of FR-4 material. ) When making an IBIS file from the bench, how should the package be accounted for? If the package is in the I-V data, is it appropriate to leave out the package information in the IBIS file and say the IBIS file is only valid for that package type? Thank you for your comments, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu