Hi, The increase in jitter with the longer string is expected behavior due to the increase in freq content and the bandwidth of the interconnect, otherwise known as inter-symbol interference or ISI jitter. The fact that you see errors in low to high transition rather than the high to low, may be a function of asymetric drive of your driver. best regards, Michael Greim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Patel [mailto:whizplayer@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:03 PM To: m.randol@xxxxxxxxxxxx; si_list Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PRBS Data patterns Hi! Mark, Greimm and Vinu, I ran the experiment further and over an interval of 10minutes I find that with PRBS 2^31-1 the BER is 1.873e-11. This error ratio is when 0 is transitioning to 1 and the error ratio is 0 for 1-->0. So I think when there is long run of zero's in the pattern and then the data bit switches to 1 there is an error. I will try to look at the pattern on the scope and see if I can see the error happening. In the EYE mode I think the pk-pk jitter goes up with the longer string. Thanks Bob --- Mark Randol <m.randol@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Bob Patel wrote: > > > > I see that when I use PRBS 2^31-1 I get BER of > > 2.88e-11 which is quite low but there and 0 BER > when > > using 2^23-1. Now, if I understand correctly PRBS > > 2^31-1 is just a longer string length then PRBS > 2^23-1 > > and since the frequency of the data remains > constant, > > I don't see where the BER is coming from. > > I would appreciate any help in this matter. > > To paraphrase Michael a little, the longer the > sequence, the longer a > cluster of just 0's or 1's that occur during the > sequence. IIRC, the > averaged frequency content will remain the same, but > for the period the > longer clusters of 0's and ones occur, the frequency > content of the > signal will be lower than "normal". > > It's another example of time and frequency being > duals of each other. > You have to understand both in digital > communications systems. :) > -- > Mark Randol, RF Evaluation Engineer > Motorola SPS, Inc. > M/S EL536 > 2100 E. Elliot Road > Tempe, AZ 85284 > (480)413-8052 Voice > (480)413-8690 FAX > m.randol@xxxxxxxxxxxx > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu