If I were specifying the board impedance target and tolerance, I think = it would be preferable to tighten the tolerance around a lower or higher = impedance target if possible, instead of having a more liberal tolerance = around the 100 Ohms. An impedance target of 95 Ohms +/- 15% (assuming = no cost adder) would be preferable to 100 Ohms +/- 20% since the tighter = tolerance should result in lower jitter and (potentially) return loss. = With a higher tolerance comes allowance for more mismatch (and thus more = timing/voltage margin impact). -dave -----Original Message----- From: Dunbar, Tony [mailto:tony_dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:49 AM To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCI-Express System Level Trace Impedance Value Michael, Layout guidelines for PCI Express published by Intel say 100ohms +/- 15% = or better "is desired". Other publications and papers are even more liberal = and suggest +/- 20%. Regards, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Chan, Michael (Eng Hou) [mailto:michael.chan@xxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:15 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] PCI-Express System Level Trace Impedance Value Hi: I am looking for the board level differential impedance of the trace = for a PCI_EXPRESS bus. I know the connector has a differential impedance = value of 100 ohms. Is the system level ( board ) also has a 100 ohms = difference impedance value or something else? Thanks. =20 =20 Regards, Michael Chan H-P Corp. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu