[SI-LIST] Re: Outsourcing / methodology
- From: <Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <kegan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:26:39 -0500
I vote for allowing this type of discussion: "How do you do
Outsourcing", etc. It seems VERY much like other "Who does X?" and
"Where can I get Y" discussions and questions we have had. Strictly
speaking, neither of thoses questions involve EM/SI theory or practice
and have long been tolerated.
Of course, the challenge will be to keep the political and emotional
content out. But this is to be expected; we have trouble keeping the
emotional content out of our SI discussions.... :-(
Just my $0.02...
Aubrey Sparkman=20
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From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kenneth W. Egan
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:29 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Outsourcing / methodology
While I agree that the focus of the SI-List is largely technical, I
have to wonder if its not appropriate perhaps to have discourse on
experiences related to SI /PCB in outsourcing.
I work for a company that was primarily setup to outsource the
implementation of our ideas/specs etc.
Had I / we known the difficulties we ended up facing, we might not have
gone down that route.
We had 4 Large SI/PCB physical design projects outsourced. The problems
that arose were related to massive communication problems, despite
fluency in English, massive overselling of actual technical talent, and
refusal to take technical direction in the scope of work.
For SI, we asked for solution space engineering, i.e. topology and
physical placment investigation for the proper / best margin design. We
supplied behavioral topologies / sims to support the physical design and
extraction.
We received a non functional layout, gross errors, and no simulation
data.
Webinars etc were used to communicate, but the quality of the work just
wasn't there, or perhaps extreme ignorance.
The other problem we had was in the business contracts. WITHOUT
exception, each case negotiated a fee, based on a fixed bid. No one
delivered on THEIR OWN schedule, and then attempted to renegotiate the
contract, withholding the deliverables until said renegotiation
occurred.
Not a political statement.
Anyone on the SI-LIST have a tried a true methodology for outsourcing ??
I thought a standard SI methodology was sufficient to drive a SOW, and
constant email/phone and web interaction to contain/control technical
issues. Our consistant inability to drive outsourcing forced us to do
the work internally.
KWE
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