[SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]
- From: "Peterson, James F \(EHCOE\)" <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Benny Yan" <bennyzhi@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:15:56 -0500
by the way, in the equation I wrote below the "3D" is a formatting
artifact and shouldn't be in the equation...
(I'll try again to write here); Vout <equals> Vin * (Zo/(Zo+Zs)) ...and
solving for Zs
-Jim
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From: Benny Yan [mailto:bennyzhi@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:10 PM
To: Peterson, James F (EHCOE)
Cc: torocar@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]
Eric Bogatin mentioned a method in his book<Signal
Integrity:Simplified>.
Benny Yan
On 9/19/06, Peterson, James F (EHCOE) <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Another method to establish the source impedance (Zs) of a
driver from
an IBIS model is in a simulation (still using Ohms law):
Create a circuit with the ibis model driving a very long
transmission
line (12 inches) with a known trace impedance (Zo). Drive the
line both
high and low and observe the porch in the waveform. The porch is
caused
by the ratio of Zs and Zo. Zs can be solved by rearranging this
very
familiar equation :
Vout =3D Vin * (Zo/(Zo+Zs)) ...solve for Zs, Vout is Vporch and
Vin is =
the
total voltage swing
The porch will last as long as 2x the propagation time of the
T-line.
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]
Carlos
Ohms law (Z=3D V/I). You have a V/I curve at min/typ/max device
=
corners.
regards,
Scott
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Carlos Toro wrote:
> Hello members of the SI list.
> Does anyone has experience with calculating the output
impedance of a=20
> microcontroller pin given its IBIS model?.
>
> I don't have access to the silicon yet, just the IBIS for now.
I=20
> intend to match impedances of critical PCB traces of our
design.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> =20
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