I've never seen it used in SPICE, but in Sonnet, port -1 would be the differential drive of port 1. Brent -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ingraham, Andrew Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:09 PM To: SI-List Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Node -1 in SPICE Negative node numbers could mean different things to different SPICE programs. DEC's SPICE used negative numbers within subcircuits to refer to the global (top-level) node with the same number. Thus, node "-1" would be identical to node "1" at the top level (without having to put the node number in the .SUBCKT line and the subcircuit call statement). I think this handy feature was unique to DEC's SPICE. Some SPICEs might interpret "-1" as a non-numeric nodename, now that so many SPICEs allow nodenames rather than numbers. Or perhaps a minus sign appearing in a place where SPICE was expecting an integer, might be seen by SPICE as equivalent to whitespace, thus making "-1" identical to writing " 1". Or maybe some SPICE-based program gives special meaning to the node "-1". Bottom line ... I think the results depend on which program you use. Regards, Andy > In LineSim, a NC circuit connection of a SPICE port node is referred to as > node "-1". What does this "-1" node represents in the SPICE model or where > does it connects to? ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu