[SI-LIST] Lossy Line Simulation DDR Signals and HSPICE netlist generation

  • From: "Venkat" <venkat@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:09:28 +0530

Hi all,

         I am doing lossy line simulation using IBIS models in Hyperlynx
(Signal integrity tool from mentor graphics). When I generate the HSPICE
compatible netlist for the same net using two different drivers i.e.
PC256DDR.ibs and the other one is 512MDDR.ibs(Device is NT5DS32M16BT).In
both the cases the transmission line parameters are same( Same trace
parameters).But when I observe the Spice file I am getting different ?W?
parameters  and different inductance values. The following are the two lists
of parameters what I am getting.

For 512 MB DDR

W001       N=1  100    0  101    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W001 L=0.0141955
MULTIDEBYE=1
T002        100    0  103    0 Z0=4.956034e+001 TD=2.334574e-011
CV001       100    0 2.489e-014
W003       N=1  104    0  103    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W003 L=0.0395297
MULTIDEBYE=1
W004       N=1  105    0  106    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W004 L=0.0019117
MULTIDEBYE=1
RN1317_3    104  105 33
W005       N=1  102    0  107    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W005 L=0.00305359
MULTIDEBYE=1
RN1305_1    101  102 33
TP001       108    0  109    0 Z0=6.666317e+001 TD=1.588583e-010
T006        108    0  106    0 Z0=4.956034e+001 TD=2.334574e-011
CV002       108    0 2.489e-014
TP002       107    0  111    0 Z0=6.969321e+001 TD=4.878524e-011
CV003       103    0 2.489e-014
CV004       106    0 2.489e-014

For 256 MB DDR


W001       N=1  100    0  101    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W001 L=0.0162919
MULTIDEBYE=1
W002       N=1  100    0  103    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W002 L=0.0413441
MULTIDEBYE=1
CV001       100    0 4.979e-014
W003       N=1  104    0  105    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W003 L=0.0055405
MULTIDEBYE=1
RN1317_3    103  104 33
W004       N=1  102    0  106    0 RLGCmodel=Model_W004 L=0.0119705
MULTIDEBYE=1
RN1305_1    101  102 33
TP001       105    0  108    0 Z0=6.666317e+001 TD=1.588583e-010
CV002       105    0 4.979e-014

Pls let me know why there is a difference in the parameters list even though
the transmission line characteristics are same.

Venkat V.S.Babu.K
Cg-Coreel Programmables Pvt Ltd
Bangalore
India




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