Just curious - does your circuit have a diode across each relay coil? With the cathode on the +5V supply and the anode going to the node that has the low-side of the coil and the collector of the NPN. And how much coil current are we talking here - 10's of mA, 100's of mA or Amps? Cheers, Steve Barton -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aubrey Sparkman Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:39 PM To: 'Kevin G. Rhoads'; 'Don Nelson' Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Latching relays in optical switches The question that occurs to me: Is there any other electronics inside that you can't see? Are you sure you have only two coils wound on the same core? If there are some built in FETs, they could have a preference and be causing some trouble... Aubrey Sparkman Aubrey.K.Sparkman@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin G. Rhoads Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:31 PM To: Don Nelson Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Latching relays in optical switches >The problem is, the manufacturer disagrees and insists our circuit >needs to be redesigned to permanently tie one leg of the coils to GND >and switch the high side instead. While that is more common, either should work. Particularly since you have verified the +5 rail is not moving, which indicates it is a good ground for all non-DC signals. If you induce current in the other coil then the flux-linkage through the magnetic circuit is kept minimal. That will interfere with switching. As for: 'They contend that having the 5V potential on the coil permanently is "interfering with the magnetic field". I find this hard to believe, but physics was a long time ago.' That sounds like pseudo-scientific cruft. You should find it hard to believe. HTH Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu Legal Disclaimer: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed or by their designee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are on notice that any distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete or destroy any copy of this message ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu