Hi Isaac, Can we access the presentation on line? if so, when could we access it? Thanks, qv > Delivered-To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > From: "Isaac Kantorovich" <kantor@xxxxxxx> > To: <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to measure package impedance or characteristic= for=20 a chip? > Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:45:07 -0400 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > X-archive-position: 4199 > X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > X-original-sender: kantor@xxxxxxx > X-list: si-list >=20 >=20 > John, >=20 > Our presentation on 11th EPEP conference in Monterey, CA, may be of inter= est > to you. It suggests a method of on-chip impedance measurement under compu= ter > operating conditions (die and package are not separated), which can allow > you to measure milliohms and fractions of milliohms of impedance at large > frequency range. >=20 > The presentation will be on Wednesday, October 23, from 8.30 to 9.50 am. = The > title is: >=20 > "Measurement of milliohms of impedance at hundred MHz on Chip Power Suppl= y > Loop," Isaac Kantorovich, Chris Houghton, Steve Root and Jim St. Laurent, > Hewlett-Packard, USA >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Isaac Kantorovich, > HP Corporation >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Lin (=AAL=B4=C2=B7=D7)" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "John Lin (=AAL=B4=C2=B7=D7)" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:23 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] How to measure package impedance or characteristic for= a > chip? >=20 >=20 > > Dear all SI gurus, > > Can somebody help to provide me a way to measure chip package impedance > without separating die and package? > > Can a TDR be used to do so? Or what instruments, such as VNA, to do s= o? > > Do I need to make a fixture on PCB to measure it? > > > > Thank you for your helps in advance :-) > > > > John Lin > > > > Quanta Computer Inc.,Taiwan, R.O.C. > > Email: John@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Tel: 886+3+3272345 ext. 5183 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >=20 > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >=20 > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >=20 > List archives are viewable at: =20 > =09=09//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > =09=09http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > =09=09http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu