Hi Sunil, Going to 2oz copper helps thermally, but fabrication and etching tolerances can get more difficult. The PCB industry is quite comfortable with 1oz and this is usually what is selected to help with heat dissipation. The difference that you are seeing between fab vendors is probably in the vias. Via plating can have a significant effect on getting the heat to these large copper ground planes. The trick with vias and one that is often overlooked is that the minimum 0.7mils of plating in a via is not the best for thermal and one should talk with the fabricator to see if this can be increased (~1mil is not too unreasonable) or like Tim mentioned you need to add more stitching vias to reduce the sensitivity to via plating thickness. You could also look at adding Ground fill to the top and bottom signal layers if there is any room rather then going to 2oz inner copper. Best Regards, Heidi -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nash, Timothy J Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 6:31 AM To: sunil bharadwaz; SI LIST Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Heat issue in PCB's Sunil, The proportion of copper to dielectric in a PCB's makeup is definitely a factor with respect to a PCB's ability to reject heat. You are correct in assuming that if you increase copper thickness it will help in heat rejection. In extreme cases, you can also add copper planes in the stackup dedicated to rejecting heat (thermal planes). However, you need to make sure that you give the heat a place to go by stitching vias between these planes and also between the planes and the chassis (i.e. to plating under wedgelocks or plating around tooling holes). Not only will this help EMI/EMC, but it will also serve as a thermal rejection path. One thing to keep in mind - I have seen stackups that had so much copper (with respect to the dielectric) - that they had trouble reflowing solder - it just couldn't heat up fast enough. Hope this helps. Tim -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sunil bharadwaz Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:15 PM To: SI LIST Subject: [SI-LIST] Heat issue in PCB's Hi , I have a four layered PCB ,Sig,Gnd,Pwr & Sig.The gnd & power are 1 Oz copper. Does the heat dissipation of the PCB's improve , if the thickness of the Power planes is increased to 2 oz Cu.Vice versa , does the heat dissipation go bad upon decreasing the thickness of the Power planes to 1/2 Oz. I have two PCB's from two fab houses (Basically same Gerbers).The heat dissipation from on one of these is bad as the board from the other fab house seems lot better in this regard. I'am interested to investigate into this.Pls suggest me the things to look for here. Thanks in advance!! Best regards Sunil ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu