Some time ago I was looking into the feasibility of DC/DC converter simulation modeling for time domain simulation. There are a few approximation methods or simplified models out there that take in a few assumptions but what I got out of a few experiments and probing different sources is that the primary challenge that makes this difficult or impractical in some case: 1> obviously the simulation runtime being micro/milli-seconds rather than pico/nano seconds simulation runtime is way toooo long and perhaps more importantly 2> the challenge of incorporating the feedback mechanism that would to sample the output voltage periodically based on some factor of the switching rate.... and then begin to adjust the Ton vs. Toff times of the input voltage before passing through some integrator circuit(output inductors) to generate my new output voltage. Among many other milestones the overall goal that I wanted to achieve was to be able to analyze power distribution from source to load(considering converters, bulk caps, decoupling caps, and loading devices) in the time domain. =20 With the new functionality of the HDL-AMS extensions to the popular SPICE tools that many of you are probably using for quick and accurate answers to multi-GHz simulations..... have any of you looked into or used any of the HDL-AMS variants to model DC/DC switching converters that are running in the multi-kHz range? Any of you experts foresee any other challenges outside of the two that I mentioned above that would make this a bad or non-trivial concept to model in AMS?? Thanks, Simba Simba Julian Sr. Signal Integrity Engineer EMC Corporation Email: sjulian@xxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu