------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:13:20 -0000 From: "mikecar9999 <mikecar99@xxxxxxxxxxx>" <mikecar99@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Routing Differential PECL Signals Message-ID: <b0ad80+d1i3@xxxxxxxxxxx> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 65.119.52.228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a couple questions about how best to route 1.25GHz PECL signals over a distance of about 9 inches on a 12 layer card. Item #1: I have always tried to route Differential signals inside the board using the edge-to-edge routing method with ground planes above and below. For my current design I need to route from a GBIC to the Gigabit Mac (PM3386) over a 9 inch area but I am unable to get the signals between ground planes due to their 150 Ohm Diff Pair Impedance (for the TX pair). I am comfortable with the signal integrity of using the top layer of the board (microstrip routing) with all other signals being away from this area. My question is what about EMI concerns? Isn't running 1.25GHz signals over a 9 inch area going to cause EMI issues? Since they are being routed as differential signals should I not be concern about the EMI as long as they are match impedance, match length and maintaining a tight coupling the full distance (so the fields cancel each other)? I have seen an article from National Semiconductor "LVDS Owner's Manual" which calls for the use of ground shield traces being along both sides of the diff-pair (at a distance of 2s, where s = space between the pair) with vias to the ground plane at <1/4 wavelength intervals. Would something like this help reduce the chance of having EMI problems? Item #2: Does anyone know how far you can safely route PECL signals on FR4 material? Would 9 inches be considered a great distance? Should I consider adding more PECL Drivers/Receivers (such as the Maxim MAX9321) between the GBIC and the Gigabit Mac? This would increase the jitter. The GBIC vendor and PMC reference designs both say to keep them as short as possible. How short is short? Thanks, Mike C. ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu