[SI-LIST] FW: PCB layer stackup

  • From: "Haldor Husby" <Haldor.Husby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:05:53 +0100

Do you really need two Power planes? If not, start with stackup2 and make L5 
GND. Then make the dielectric thickness between layer 3 and 4, and layer 5 and 
6 much ticker than the others (more than 2x). This gives you a symetrical 
balanced stack with GND as return for all signals including PWR, and you get 
the desireable interplane capacitance between PWR and GND for high-frequency 
decoupling. Combined with generously distributed GND vias, this stack will give 
you good return without having to think too much.

In this configuration, it is almost benign to cut up the PWR plane in all kinds 
of interdigitated shapes so that many PWR domains can be accomodated on a 
single plane. If you have so many PWR domains that this is difficult you should 
think twice about using PWR as return for anything. Copper can carry a lot of 
current, so you normally would not need two planes for that reason, and you can 
increase the current carrying capability with higher copper weight on internal 
layers. This stack-up has worked very well for me.
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Haldor Husby, Senior Development Engineer
Data Respons Norge AS
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-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Kindt, Jan
Sent: Tue 1/9/2007 1:26 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] PCB layer stackup
 
Hi,
 
I need to specify a 8layer board. Fastest edges on the board are on the
600Mbit LVDS channels : about 500ps. I have two stackups in mind :
 
                  stackup 1              stackup 2
---------------------------------------------------------
L1                routing                routing
Substrate
L2                power plane            GND
Substrate
L3                power plane            routing
Substrate
L4                GND                    power plane
Substrate
L5                routing                power plane
Substrate
L6                routing                routing
Substrate
L7                GND                    GND
Substrate
L8                routing                routing
 
Stackup 1 has the advantage that all routing on L5, L6 and L8 is
referenced to GND. We need to push the LVDS channels over a board to
board connector. On the board to board connector, there are GND's
between separate pairs. So we keep the same reference to GND over the
connector.
 
Stackup 2 is the stackup I would normally use due to it's symmetry.
Signals on L3 and L6 are referenced to both GND and a power plane. But I
don't know why I would need to favour stackup 2 over stackup 1.
 
Can you comment om which stackup is most preferred ? Or what are the
drawbacks/advantages of one stackup to another.
 
best regards,
Jan

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