Hello, Besides of the good advice to consult some excellent books, here is an intuitive explanation of the phenomenon: The situation is very similar to what happens in a waveguide with discontinuities (although the modes are different, as they depend on the cross section). As long as the actual cross section matches the cross section for which the mode has been defined, it just propagates (and/or attenuates) in the longitudinal direction without any change in the transverse direction (= cross section). However, when it hits a discontinuity, the fields of the mode don't match any more with the actual environment. As a result a scattered field is excited such that the total field (original incident mode + scattered field) do satisfy all necessary boundary and continuity conditions. Outside of the discontinuity region, the scattered fields can be decomposed into the various modes of the 'launching' lines. One of these modes will be the lowest (quasi-)TEM mode (in the microstrip), the others are the higher-order modes (similar to what happens in waveguides). In case of the microstrip, which consists of a mixed environment (dielectric + air), these higher modes may be of a complicated nature. When the frequency is not too high (i.e. when it is below the cut-off frequency of the first higher-order mode) only the (quasi-)TEM mode will be propagating, while all other modes are attenuated (likely with an exponential decay). Typically, these decaying modes tend over a longitudinal region of the order of one (or a few) 'typical' dimension of the transverse direction (e.g. the width of the microstrip line). Looking at this phenomenon from a circuit point of view, the scattered (quasi-)TEM mode appears as a wave, reflected by the discontinuity, while the higher-order modes give rise to lumped 'excess' impedances. In fact, these 'excess' impedances represent all of the energy in the higher-order modes. When no losses (or radiation) occurs this energy is purely reactive and the corresponding 'excess' impedances are reactive as well (only imaginary part, such as capacitances, inductances, ...). As the frequency plays a role in the attenuation of the higher-modes (as well as in the (quasi-)TEM mode which is dispersive as well) these circuit elements will exhibit a frequency dependence also. Good luck and best regards, Dr. Ronald De Smedt Alcatel Bell, F. Wellesplein 1, B-2018 Antwerpen (Belgium) Charles Harrington wrote: > > Hello, > > When a TEM (or quasi-TEM) signal propagating on a > microstrip trace meets a discontinuity (e.g., a via) > on a substrate at microwave frequencies, higher-order > modes are excited at the discontinuity, leading to > reflections. > > Can anyone tell me exactly what kind of modes are > excited and why they are excited. How far away from > the discontinuity can they propagate and how does this > depend on the operating frequency. > > I'm a postgraduate student currently working on > discontinuities on PCB. My search for relevant > literature led me to this list. So, I'll appreciate > any help. > > Charles. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu