If the HFSS insertion loss is high I suspect something like shorting the signals to the imaginary ground bounding box or failure to establish a ground plane. At any rate a sanity check s/b run on simple known structures to make sure the tool is understood and under control. Steve, Ing. Giancarlo Guida wrote: > Hi folks, > I seriously doubt that software like HFSS and SI wave can make a mistake > simulating a simple configuration like two coupled parallel microstrip > lines. > > I would suspect that one of the model have something wrong; I bet that > any Ansoft AE could easily help on this. > > By the way, with HFSS it is possible to simulate a transmission line > structure of an arbitrary length by modeling a little piece and using > the deembedding feature, provided that the structure is uniform. > > Regards > Giancarlo > > > > > Istvan Novak ha scritto: > >> At what frequency do you see this difference, and was the length the >> same in the two simulators? In SiWave you can easily simulate very >> long traces, whereas in HFSS your maximum length might be just a few >> hundred mils. >> >> Regards, >> >> Istvan Novak >> Oracle >> >> >> Mohamad Haghtalab wrote: >> >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I've simulated two coupled parallel microstrip lines with both HFSS and >>> SIwave(from >>> >>> Ansoft), there is good agreement between the SHAPE of Scattering Matrix >>> results in two >>> >>> softwares,BUT in the LEVEL of them there is about 15 - 20 dB >>> difference,what do you >>> >>> think about this? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To unsubscribe from si-list: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >> or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >> For help: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >> >> List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.net >> >> List archives are viewable at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >> >> Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 150 N. Center St. #211 Reno, NV 89501 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu