Are there any bare-board vendors in Columbia that can manufacture 4-layer boards? Otherwise, 1) It doesn't matter if the +5v pour "bonds with" the +5v traces 2) no 3) no. Let the GND pour fill wherever it can. Jack -=-=-=- On 11/11/06, Carlos Toro <torocar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello you all. Unfortunelly, the local company which we pretend to hire > for > manufacturing our board just makes 2 layer boards (max). Probably our > design > wouldn't require more than that but since it is our the first time we > pretend to hire the services of such a company some doubts have come up. > The PCB engineers have assigned both the TOP and BOTTOM layers as routing > layers (not plane layers, since there are only two layers to work on). The > TOP layer is being used for routing as many signals and +5V power traces > as > possible while in the BOTTOM layer a copper pour attached to GND is to be > placed (there are some spots where signal traces partially go in the > BOTTOM > layer since sometimes they cross, however, one of the goals is to chop the > BOTTOM layer as less as possible). The PCB is basically a development > board > prototype for a microcontroller. There are not high power components > involved. > *Now, these are the doubts that have come up through the layout process > and > I would like you to kindly give me your advice on:* > ** > *1. Should a copper pour attached to +5V be placed in the TOP layer?. An > effort has been put on for distributing both power and GND in a star shape > fashion (in order to avoid impedance coupling between ICs). But I'm afraid > that If a +5V copper pour is placed in the TOP layer the star > POWER/GND distribution topology will be lost (since the pour will bond to > the +5V traces because it is electrically the same net). Should the copper > pour respect the star topology +5V traces ?* > ** > *2. Should the copper pour of the TOP layer be attached to the GND net > instead?* > ** > *3. A star topology has been used for placing the GND supply traces > (trying > to locate them underneath +5V traces). If a copper pour is placed in the > BOTTOM layer attached to GND, the star topology will be lost (for the same > reason as topic # 1). Acording to the theory, the returning current of all > the signal traces and power traces will try to go come back right under > the > respective trace providing there is a GND return trace or plane underneath > (that is, the returning current always seeks for the **least impedance > path). If +5V (TOP layer) is distributed in a star fashioned way, the > physics would take care of the rest, right? (I mean even if the bottom > layer > has a GND copper pour eating up the star topology GND traces, the "mirror > effect" would "copy" the star topology from the TOP layer to BOTTOM?). > Should the copper pour respect the star topology GND traces ?* > ** > I would REALLY appreaciate if you kindly could provide some advices about > these matters. > > THANK YOU SO MUCH BEFOREHAND. > > -- > Carlos Toro B > Design Engineer > JAVERIANA STEREO > Calle 18 No. 118-250 > Cali, Colombia > South America > > Office Phone: +57 2 2725032 > Mobile Phone: +57 315 474 5872 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu