Hello, It seems TP1,4 are intentionally vague. tx block---TP1--conn--backplane--conn--TP4---rx block TP1 "cuts" somewhere between backplane mated-connector and tx asic, and similarly for TP4 and the rx side. The bkplane & connectors reside between TP1 and 4. Shouldn't TP1/4 exclude all tx/rx pcb elements? Yet... TP1/4 would then include connector pads & a short lead-in on tx/rx pcb side which, by definition, DOES have a partial tx/rx pcb stackup but I assume that's ok. Justification for excluding tx/rx pcb: the bkplane channel should be a separate model so that plugins can be separately optimized and the backplane w/ connectors standardized. Lastly, why would the ieee propagate such "vaguery"? On a semantic basis alone there's reason for disappointment: Sec. 69B.2: "The backplane interconnect is defined between test points TP1 and TP4 as shown in Figure 69B?1." But TP1/4 don't define anything in the figure (it's not made explicit what of the tx/rx pcb lies within 'backplane' bordered by TP1/4). I suppose I should assume that the vagueness is an implicit message: "It's up to you, buddy.". Thanks for any clarification, John ------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu