[SI-LIST] Re: Capacitor S parameter

  • From: "Orin Laney" <olaney@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'Sukumar'" <sukumarm@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:52:22 -0800

Your customer owes you an explanation.  Perhaps the trace lengths and capacitor 
placement are intended to resonate or otherwise account for the cap impedance.  
Or maybe somebody slipped a decimal point.  159 ohms is simply the datasheet 
cap value plugged into Z = 1/sc at 5 GHz.
 

Orin

 

From: Sukumar [mailto:sukumarm@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:59 AM
To: olaney@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: Capacitor S parameter

 

Hi Orin and Steve,

Thanks for your response. 

My RF signal impedance is 50 ohm. RF signals are routed in the top layer alone. 
Signal topology is,
DUT-trace- capacitor-trace-SMA. Capacitor is series connection with trace. And 
capacitor value is fixed by my customer. I try to convey my customer.

Could you tell me, how you calculated capacitor impedance through .s2p?



Thanks,
Sukumar





Orin Laney <olaney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That's a 0.2 pF capacitor. Z at 5 GHz is 159 ohms. Perhaps you intended to use 
a larger value? Such small caps are more often used for shunt tuning.

Orin

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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:58 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Capacitor S parameter

Hi Experts,

Currently I&#39;m doing a RF Signal S-parameter simulation.

One series capacitor is connected with RF Signal trace near the DUT side.

RF Signal operating frequency is 5GHz.

I downloaded s parameter(.s2p) model from manufacturer website ( 
http://psearch.murata.com/capacitor/product/GRM1555C1HR20BA01%23.html 
<http://psearch.murata.com/capacitor/product/GRM1555C1HR20BA01%23.html> [1] )

Capacitor part no:GRM1555C1HR20BA01

The insertion loss (S21)is very high up to 10 GHz.

Is this capacitor support 5GHz or
this capacitor allows only above 10GHz Signal?

How can i choose the capacitor which supports 5GHz?

Looking forward for SI Experts answers.



Thanks,
Sukumar







--- Links ---
1 http://psearch.murata.com/capacitor/product/GRM1555C1HR20BA01%23.html 
<http://psearch.murata.com/capacitor/product/GRM1555C1HR20BA01%23.html> 
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