Steve, could you remain adult about it too? I m not going to repeat myself here again and again. Lets keep this = subject off SI list and concentrate on subject related to signal integrity = rather than trying to sell books and rip people off on high cost pricing. = I can direct you to another site where you can promote Lee's book and make = some commission out of it if you want.In ZIMBABAWE I think they can afford = to buy LEE's BOOK WITHOUT HAVING FIANANCIAL difficulty and aslo you can = spare some money for yourself too Mr Steve BODY BOY. Youssef k=20 >>> steve weir <weirsp@xxxxxxxxxx> 11/03/03 03:14PM >>> Youssef, could we remain adult about this? Lee doesn't owe anyone the benefit of his knowledge and experience. He=20 offers it for sale in his consulting and seminars, and either costs a = whole=20 lot more than $125. Now, he has committed his time to put some of it in = a=20 book. If you think it isn't worth it, no one is forcing you to buy it. = If=20 you can't afford it, but still want it, lobby your employer or local=20 university library to buy a copy. It's not Lee's, and it isn't Steven's=20= problem that you want the benefit of Lee's knowledge at a cheaper=20 price. Could you spare us the false indignation? At 02:34 PM 11/3/2003 -0800, Youssef Khalife wrote: >First of all I m not the only one in this SI LIST who found Lee Rithcey = =3D >book expensive. I can forward all the reply I got from SI list who agreed = =3D >with me. However, it is rude and inappropriate to consider claiming a =3D >book, which costs $125 is too expensive, is ridiculous. What is ridiculous= =3D >and irony is still we have people like you who cannot comprehend the = value =3D >of $125. Let me elaborate for you Mr RICH BOY what is really the value of = =3D >$125. If you live in California, for every $100 you make you need to pay = =3D >tax almost $40. Therefore, $125 is equivalent to $175. Second, there are = =3D >engineers with PHD degree and have experience more than 40 years and sell = =3D >their book for only $75. Also we are living in an age where people don't = =3D >have food to eat. Therefore, we have to be carefull how to spend our =3D >money. However, if you are RICH BOY like you Rambo Rich boy, then = spending =3D >$200 on sunglass and $125 on tennis shoes won't definitely affect your = =3D >budget. Therefore, never try to be ridiculous in critisizing other people = =3D >who have strong argument. >Youssef K > > >>> "Salkow, Steven" <steven.salkow@xxxxxxxx> 11/03/03 01:37PM >>> >Speaking solely for myself, claiming a book is too expensive to buy is >ridiculous. > >http://www.speedingedge.com/rtft_book.htm=3D20=20 > > $125 is not a lot to pay for what probably amounts to a collective of >35 or more years of experience. We living in an age where people spend >$200 on sunglasses and $125 on tennis shoes!=3D20 > What did you pay to go to college? > >Steven Salkow >Lockheed > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20 >[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Youssef Khalife >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM >To: Lee Ritchey >Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20 >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Books/references on power/ground distribution > > >Lee >Your book is too expensive to buy it. You need to lower the price so >that =3D3D >we as engineers can afford to purchase it. >Youssef K > > >>> "Lee Ritchey" <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 11/03/03 10:35AM >>> >I just published a new book, "Right the First Time, A Practical Handbook >=3D3D >on >High Speed PCB and System Design" that has seven chapters dedicated to >all >aspects of designing the power subsystem, including this topic. > >It can be purchased by logging onto my web site www.speedingedge.com. > >I think you will find this to be the best treatment of the subject in >print. The power section was written by John Zasio and myself based on >a >great deal of research and lab measurements. > >Lee > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <Koudssi@xxxxxxx> > > To: <chris.mcgrath@xxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 10/29/2003 2:24:21 PM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Books/references on power/ground distribution > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > As far as a Board design book, I suggest the following: > > High-Speed Digital System Design=3D3D20 > > One of the authors: Stephen H. 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