Hello Gert, What if power and ground layers are equidistant from the signal layer? Also, can you explain what do you mean by the position of the cap? Regards Amit Kumar Baghmane Tech park, Bengaluru T: + 91-80-42422526 amit.kumar@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Havermann, Gert Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:37 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] AW: Stripline reference It all depends on the position of Coupling caps, the distance to each plane and the speed of your signal. If you simulate, you have to take the position of the caps into account, or at least leave the power plane floating at each port. The model must be as close to reality as possible, thus only connections between planes that are really there should be used in simulation. And the right boundary has to be used as it has massive influence on the results. BR Gert ---------------------------------------- Absender ist HARTING Electronics GmbH, Marienwerderstraße 3, D-32339 Espelkamp; Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bad Oeynhausen; Register-Nr.: HRB 8808; Vertretungsberechtige Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Kfm. Edgar-Peter Düning, Dipl.-Ing. Torsten Ratzmann -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Jason wuc Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:55 An: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [SI-LIST] Stripline reference Hello Experts, I need your help. I am extracting s-parameter of some strupline traces. These traces connect two flip chips on board and are routed between power and ground plane where power is upper plane and ground is lower plane I am in doubt that whether I should take ground/power as reference or both planes as reference while assigning ports. Please reply. Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by telephone or e-mail (as shown above) immediately and destroy any and all copies of this message in your possession (whether hard copies or electronically stored copies). ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu