I have one new thing to say about AC-couple capacitors: they can now be used as test points for serial protocol analysis tools. There are probing methods which can temporarily attach directly (solder) to the end caps of a pair of AC capacitors. A disposable "flex tip" probe head solders to the capacitor pair. It can then connect to a Flying Lead (manufactured by SAMTEC.... see the "Spirit FL" ). Our serial bus probes include this as a probing option. Paul Taddonio www.futureplus.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kotson, Michael" <mkotson@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <liuluping@xxxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <oukanghua@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to place the AC coupling capacitor of the serdes? Hi Liu, I have done designs both ways with PCIe, and didn't notice much of a difference in the compliance tests between RX and TX ends. Both were able to pass without issue. It's always best to simulate first if you can.=20 Best of luck, Mike -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of liuluping 41830 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:11 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oukanghua@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] How to place the AC coupling capacitor of the serdes? Dear si-listers: AC coupling per the PCI Express Base Specification Revision 1.0a, section 4.3.1.2 dictates AC coupling to be placed as close as practical to the transmitter buffer.=20 We consider that the AC cap is used to ensure the DC bias levels of the transmitted signal do not adversely affect the receiver,and most of time place it clsoe to the receiver side.Why the PCIe requires to put it on the TX side? Is it differ from different serdes interface? 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