Recently our group has developed a need for a 3D visualization tool that can read Cadence .mcm package design files and display the geometry as a 3D image to aid our package designers in visualizing certain problems and also aid our SI engineering staff in visualizing various 3D aspects of a package design such as connectivity of layers with stacked vias and other such structures during our checking of the design files. Some things are just easier to visualize in 3D as opposed to the 2D representation we get with the APD tool. Now for our tale of woe.... We found an almost ideal tool called APD3D that was developed by Artwork Conversion Software in Santa Cruz, CA that did exactly what we wanted. When we approached them for a demo we were told that they had just signed and exclusive deal with Cadence to allow them to put the 3d viewer APD3D into Cadence's APD tool and that they could no longer market the tool themselves. Next I contacted Cadence to see if we could get an eval of the tool from them. Seems that while they intend on integrating it into their toolset in the interim it is off the market for at least several quarters. No demos or evals either.... Drat! I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of a similar tool from any other vendor that can accomplish 3D visualization of .mcm files? All suggestions or leads are appreciated. Ray Anderson Senior Signal Integrity Staff Engineer Xilinx Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu