I have just a couple of comments to make here...one is that the members of the GSDCA did not vote in this election. The votes were cast by the Delegate Body, and they, for the most part, were voting as they were directed by the clubs they represent. Most Delegates consult with their clubs as to what to do regarding certain issues, and I know for a fact that many people, including Delegates, were annoyed beyond all reason when our Delegate sat and apparently enjoyed sitting with Andrew Hunte at last year's Eukanuba show. When that appeared on television, people everywhere were complaining about an AKC Director "making nice" with a man many have called "the devil incarnate." When that happened, we were told that it was just "the luck of the draw," and that someone's empty seat just happened to be beside Carmen. All well and good...but at the same time, Patty Strand, who was seated directly behind Carmen, got up and left when Hunte arrived. Her comment, and I am told it was not made quietly, was that she would not remain anywhere "that man." There is a person with strong convictions. It is because of things like that that the Delegates voted against Carmen, not because of anything the GSDCA or its members did. Yes, those of us with friends in other breeds, especially those who pay attention to what is going on in the dog world, were subject to questions and interrogations about Hunte getting into the club. Yes, people throughout dogdom knew about it, and no, nobody liked it. Many also had heard, from whatever source, about the letter to the AKC that was NOT signed by Lew. There again, maybe that whole situation is just the way it has been handled in the past...but again, now we have to add Hunte to the picture. The matter of Andrew Hunte and his membership has tainted everything the GSDCA has done for the past few weeks. It turned members into sparring partners, and resulted in namecalling and threats, altho one must remember that the initial threats were to Board Members, made by one of their own. The GSD fancy cannot ignore that it is only part of the dog world. We may not care about the rest of the dog world, but they know we are here and they will not forget us...this is the club that let Hunte in. OK, we've corrected that mistake. Our Delegate tried to prevent the correction, too. Don't forget that. When push comes to shove, the only person to blame for Carmen's not being chosen by the nominating committee to run for the board of the AKC is the same person who is responsible for his failure to win election in his bid from the floor. That person is Carmen himself. He may not have alienated those who seek political influence, and he may not have alienated his personal friends, but he certainly estranged himself from his delegate peers. The only reason two candidates got fewer votes is that they are not well-known. Whatever anyone feels about Carmen as a friend, or whatever he has done in the past for the club or for the breed, he'll have a long row to hoe to get people past his determination to have the GSD fancy accept Andrew Hunte as a peer. There are other times our Delegate has blotted his copybook...his bad advice to the bench show committee at the Daytona National cost the club $2500. Better to just stop now and move on from here. If he finds another club to nominate him, more power to them all. This club needs a representative who will truly represent the club. Peggy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================