In a message dated 6/4/2005 6:32:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pruett@xxxxxxxxx writes: It doesn't really matter where the national is located, as long as our handlers want $2,500 to show a special, with an additional $2,500 added on if your animal goes select (I don't get that - isn't that the point of showing a special?), entries are never going to be huge. There's a limited number of us (and I'm not one of them) that can afford to pay those kind of fees to show at a national. And, with selects now limited to 10 - and those who go select most likely to be a professional who is charging those rates, then the prices are only going to get worse. The people running this club, and the people who want to run this club, are the people who can pay those rates or the people who charge those kind of rates. It's not a healthy thing for our breed - or at least for what we like to do with our breed. In the past few week, I've seen Ann post that she will drive 12 hours max, Carolyn will fly a dog IF...Christine takes fewer dogs when the travel arrangements are a nightmare, Kris had a bad experience flying a dog and will no longer fly to the Nationals and now Laurie has hit the nail squarely on the head. (Sorry if I've left anyone else out.) YET every year you hear "well the entry got smaller but the good dogs were there" or "IF someone had a good dog they'd do whatever it took to get it there". HELLO??????? Consider the people I mentioned above and then imply when their dogs stay home, the "good dogs" all still got there! I think not all of them....in fact more and more stay home. Tom is right; if we continue with dwindling entries the National will CONTINUE to loose relevance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but John DID the circle maps and we DID do a survey on this w/ the PC, so it's not like we don't have the info/data.. Kathy three generations of Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================