In a message dated 5/16/2005 11:28:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Admittedly, I no longer do obedience training but there was a time that I titled & trained a lot of dogs. NEVER, did I inquire nor worry about the "conditions" at a show. My concerns were with how well trained & prepared my dog was for the upcoming trials. Sandy Really? Well when things get competitive and a point can separate the placings conditions can be a factor. You'll never be able to duplicate distractions for each team in the ring so simple courtesy should, IMO come into play. If we're still talking about all-breeds, or opening up OB & Rally to all breeds at out specialty shows, it's worth considering that some dogs/breeds are extremely noise sensitive. Toy breeds often won't work well in grass, or if the grass is a little long or wet. Judges are a factor too. Performance people have DNS lists, just like breed people do. Judges have preferences and some are afraid/overly cautious of certain large breeds. All I'm saying is that if a club wants the entries, they'll be welcoming; not have a "train your dog better no matter what we throw at you" way of thinking. Kathy three generations of Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================