In a message dated 11/22/2004 2:20:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx writes: There has always been those Shepherds who x-ray Good or Excellent who produce crippling Dysplasia in some of their progeny. I have always wondered if they are not actually genetically Dysplastic themselves but inherited a Modified gene that keeps the HD from expressing itself in them, but when bred, they can pass on the Dysplastic Genes without passing on the Modifying gene and the result is that the HD is expressed in those progeny who lack the Modifying Gene. There are more than a dozen things off the top of my head that I want to breed away from, (in no particular order; HD, ED, bloat/torsion, epilepsy, pancreatic insufficiency, spinal issues, uncontrollable allergies/skin issues, heart issues, mega, suspect immune systems, wackadoodle temperaments....) and even without DNA I can find a lot of them in the first few generations (or immediate relatives) of darned nearly every pedigree I look at. Then, w/a lot of "issues" there is the "environmental" factor to be considered...(diet, exercise, living conditions)....so you have the genetic/environmental risk factors to consider and weigh. Of course, I also want them to be structurally correct, loving companions, pretty to look at and easy keepers too! You do the best you can, stand behind your puppies and say the occasional novena. To the original question...would I breed an OFA fair to an OFA fair? IMO, there are a whole lot worse things in pedigrees, so if everything else was a green light, you 'betcha! Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================