In a message dated 7/27/2005 3:24:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx writes: Why would anyone on this list give information concerning German Bred dogs? WHY? Because a fellow fancier whose dog died and whose arms are empty ASKED for help, that's why. I happened to answer the post privately w/ names of several folks who are doing IMO a very nice job. All this nonsense re 10 generations knowing what's behind a line...want to know what's behind a line????? EVERYTHING in 10 generations, that's what. How common is the answer "well, breed him enough and you're bound to get some of everything". FORGET about 10 generations...how about 4??? Find me one pedigree, just ONE where you can't find bloat/torsion, mega, dogs who didn't certify either in the pedigree or linear in the first generation...you can't. So for goodness sakes, how much different of a crap shoot is it to buy a dog when you have breed surveys to go on??? It ISN'T IMO, so again, the nice thing to do, the kind thing to do is HELP by sending them to someone who does right by their dogs and the people who end up with them. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================