We are on our 2nd Oldsmobile Silhouette minivan. The first one (1992) went almost 300,000 miles. We gave it to my brother-in-law who drove it for a couple of years and then passed it on to some migrant workers. I would love to know how many miles that van ended up with. Our second Olds Silhouette we bought in 1999. The only reason we replaced the 1992 was that we were going to Germany and we didn't want to take a vehicle with almost 300,000 miles. We picked up the new van and put it on a boat to Germany. We drove it all over Europe for 4 years and then had it shipped back to the U.S. I'm driving it now and it has almost 150,000 miles on it. It can get up to 26 mpg on the highway if I keep the speed reasonable, but I usually average 22 between city & highway driving. In Germany we only got 15 mpg because I drove fast on the autobahn :-) It could go 105 mph, but I wouldn't take it over that... We've had no major repairs with either minivan and we've LOVED both of them although I couldn't fit two 500s side by side in the back. I could put a 500 & 400 next to each other. I really liked the fact that the back "bench" seat was a split seat that I could easily lift and carry alone. I also can carry the bucket seats (in the middle) without any problem. I usually have a platform in the back and crates on top of the platform, but right now am using two large wire crates and have storage between them. Between friends, family, and renting, I've driven every van out there except for the new Sprinter. Suffice it to say that we bought another Olds instead of one of the other vans. I like the way the Olds Silhouette feels on the road. I like it's power and the comfort and the mpg. I would not have wanted to drive ANYTHING larger in Europe. One time we were in Italy driving down a winding road that got too narrow even for the minivan....we had to BACK UP a LONG way up the hill and find an alternative route! The only drawback is that they're not making them anymore :-( I don't know what we'll do when our current one needs to be replaced, but then at only 150,000, we don't have to worry about that for a while. Julie Degen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================