For a bitch to improve at 2 years, is just another long drawn-out process to recondition a brain. What was the trauma at 10 months...This is very important to know so you can discover the basic underlying problems. I have seen dogs that were perfectly fine puppies...up to the time of sexual maturity...ie. 51/2 months to 6 months for several male dogs i have raised...I could almost give you the day they would freak out...With bitches it is often later corresponding to that initial surge of estrogens..Sometimes they get crazy during that first heat, and depending on the blood line history, they may never come back...improve over time, but never come back completely. I had a line years ago, stemming directly form Ch. VOL of Longworth, It was known 40 years ago these problems existed...Some have traced it back to the mid 30/s to Pffeffer von Bern. SOOOOOO When the traume happened may be directly related to other factors...Please let us know more details.. Chuck Kruger dvm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================