In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:48:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx writes: But Hunte is black and white. HE BROKERS IN DOGS. I wasn't speaking about Hunte, I referenced your comment that the board "split us apart". They didn't. I'd love to read full explanations, but here's the rub. The meeting was a closed session. The propose of the closed session was to protect the voters. (You may not like secret ballots, but there you have it.) We all picked and picked at this until we ferreted out the "no" votes. What a mess! Can a member who voted yes based on whatever it was that was discussed in the meeting (and I want to be sure to point out I'm not talking only about Hunte of his business practices, but by- laws, legal implications, non-profit tax status etc, etc, etc,) CAN THAT YES VOTE BE DISCUSSED WITHOUT REFERENCEING THINGS THAT WERE DONE IN A CLOSED DOOR SESSION? I don't know, but re read Ileana's response to Paul: ******************************************************* "I have the very strong feeling that some of the yessir are truly concerned about the legal ramifications of this issue, on a personal level. Actually, I have it directly from the source, that some are even talking to their personal insurance agents, and seeking legal counseling, looking for ways to protect themselves because it does looks like a threat of possible lawsuit was implied if membership was denied. Yes, I have this in writing, and no, I wont disclose the source, as I have no permission to do so. Now, if this is true, I am begging those members to come out and put it all in the open. I believe we not only need to vote to remove this latest applicant, but we, meaning the GSDCA, need to offer whatever protection is necessary, in the form of insurance or legal counseling, or both, to the board members and officers, who, regardless of their vote, where doing what they thought was the best job they could do for our membership. These board members should not be paying for all these costs out of their pockets. Now, as I offered to a couple of board members before, how can WE, the membership, help? If this is a frenzy, is only fed out of frustration. Ileana ************************************************************ That's NOT BS Sheila. Now you can opine all day long that certain issues weren't valid, certain fears unfounded and without merit. (Actually, we've all opined about this until my head is spinning!) You know what? It doesn't matter. Obviously some of those in a position to consider all of the facts came to different conclusions. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================