In a message dated 2/11/2005 11:57:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, djur@xxxxxxx writes: I certainly appreciate your comments! However, I am not looking for someone that will DO whatever I want, just someone willing to work with me, willing to answer my questions and listen to my concerns! Someone that is honest about their dogs and has the same best interests at heart "the betterment of our wonderful breed!" Is that too much to ask? Deanne www.jurhaus.com ========================================================= Deanne, What you said made sense.... but the "devil" is in the details. What is "the best interests at heart" and "the betterment of our wonderful breed" can be so different from various people's perspectives. And I am not trying to get into a discussion, just trying to give you the benefit of age and some experience. If you have been involved in local showing for a while, participated in regional events and have bred some nice dogs - as I recall you mentioned in your previous posts - you have likely met some of the more successful breeders in the country. I imagine you introduced yourself, expressed your admiration for their breeding program and told them you were interested. And during these conversations you were likely able to determine whether you had similar goals, etc. From then on, it is almost a personal thing - whether they have anything available? How conformable they feel about trusting you with their chosen puppies? Whether they feel they can meet your requirements? Etc. I don't believe you can force this relationship. If you are looking at a puppy, there is not a lot of promising or warranties someone can give you other than replacement or refunds. Dogs, like people, do change a lot as they grow. You can go by the parents, the combination of bloodlines, etc... but a puppy is always a gamble. If you want to be assured of a showable and winning dog, you have to wait and get a young adult. And even then, there are concerns. You may even want to consider leasing a well bred bitch and produce your "young star" and, in the mean time, enjoy the ride. Go to dogshows, talk to people and listen, listen, listen. The joy of the sport is the "journey" not the finale. Dania ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================