I started in performance with a GSd that had white in the pedigree. One time I attended a trial and saw the most beautiful GSD going through his obedience paces. Although I really didn't know much about the breed standard, I knew enough to recognize that this dog was in a completely different league than my dog. I approached the man and complimented him on his dogs performance. He then told me that the dog had been purchased for the show ring, but one testicle had not descended. This dog made and impression on me and later when we became successful conformation, I always believed that a working dog should be as good a representation of the breed as the dog in the breed ring. Consequently we have produced many working dogs and family companions that could have easily have finished in the all breed ring. All dogs shown in any venue should be good ambassadors for the breed and that includes those placed with families as many more will see these dogs and formulate opinions about our breed than those we show in any ring. John DeHope told me just a few months before he passed away that as a breeder you should judge the quality of your litter not only by the best in the litter but also by the least. I thought that was a pretty profound observation and I have found it to be true. We are coming upon the 100th anniversary of our breed. For decades the qualifications for Obed. Victor.Vctx have been in place. There has been no issue, no problem but for decades there wasn't a cash flow problem either. Now as the PC continues to lose revenue, we yet again want to lower the standard bar for no other reason than to generate revenue. At the end of the day, we should ask ourselves if Von Stephanitz would approve of our continuing to lower the standard bar for the breed he designed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie Halfen" <kthalfen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "gsd list" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:58:34 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] the same but different After reading over some of the lastest topics, I just have to point something out. People were highly offended when a veterinarian went over dogs at Crufts and disqualified them for "faults" congenital or acquired. These dogs earned the best of breed award, however were withheld from competing in the groups and people are outraged that this can happen. This seems very similar to a dog with a docked tail being entered in obedience (as an example) and being allowed to compete and allowed to earn the high in trial, but not allowed to earn the obedience victor/victrix award because a BREED judge goes over the dog and disqualifies it because it has a docked tail. If we don't want to allow veterinarians to judge breed dogs, then we shouldn't be having breed judges judging performance dogs. Now I personally feel that if any "judging" is being done by someone other than who is judging the event be it in breed, obedience or anything else, then that needs to be done before the event takes place. Any disqualified dogs should be refunded their entry fee or given the option to compete, knowing they will not be able to enter the group (in breed) or earn the obedience victor/victrix, rather than humiliating the owner/handler after the competition is complete. I think the breed standard is important to uphold, but that is why we have breathtakingly beautiful breed dogs and perfomance dogs that do a breathtakingly beautiful performance. Just some food for thought. Katie Halfen Mackey DVM Casamoko Shepherds www.casamoko.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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