On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:19:08 EDT, VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx wrote:=20 >English Cocker and Cocker Spaniels are two completely different =20 >breeds--didn't even start off from the same breed. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ They most certainly did! In fact, ALL of the Spaniels were one breed (or "type" if you like) of dog at one time in their history -- very early on in this country. The American Spaniel Club is, in fact, OLDER than the AKC. And, at one time, it was the Parent Club for all of the spaniel breeds. The difference between the Cocker and the Fieldie at one time was a top weight limit of 28 lbs, for example! So the Cocker and the =46ield Spaniel also were one breed once upon a time. http://www.asc-cockerspaniel.org/history/histobreed.asp I have no wish to fight. I just find it hilarious that some people think a new breed HAS to be created by mixing one breed with another. That's just not true. In this country, breeds can split from other breeds for good reason if the Parent Club petitions AKC. It's been done many times before, and I've no doubt it will be done again. FYI: Keep your eye on the Akita folks! Carloni OUT! Karen C. kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Keep an open mind; but not so open that your brains fall out!" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================