Keeping the feeders and/or bird baths is an Ok idea and, if placed at a proper location, will/should keep them in that area. I know, I did it for years at my farm. As I said and a couple others, and Bud replied, the plastic life like owls, crows & hawks are a great deterrent. I'd forgotten some will even make noises. Actually, it's usually just a short 1 or 2 week period they flock together, but not always. I hope folks don't think we are bird haters. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <MidniteGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <SoilentGrn@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:15 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: sparrow infestation So, I take it by this thread, that putting out bird feeders and bird baths might NOT be a good idea? I enjoy watching all the beautiful colored birds visit the backyard!! Brenda Banister ************** ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================