[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2589
- From: Epeters93@xxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:27:24 EDT
In a perfect world we could show more than one venue a day at a sight and
we would all have the opportunity to see any and all of them we want to:
herding early in the morning and conformation later in the day on one day
and then agility and conformation the next and rally/obedience and
conformation the next, etc. etc. As the number of dogs being shown in
conformation
continues to decline I think we might not need to take the same length of
time to show fewer dogs, but that's just my opinion.
I also see a trend where the other venues are becoming as competitive and
will have as many if not more numbers than conformation. Not only is there
a reward factor in working with your own dog that you don't get when you
hand them over to a handler but the limited number of good handlers and
their cost could become prohibitive to many people.
Right now if you want to show more than one dog in the classes /specials
in conformation you rarely have a chance to get to see the other venues
never the less participate in them. There are people that can and do it -
very
well. I'm just not organized enough yet - but it's a goal for sure.
As for herding - the difficulty with having it at the sight is
multifaceted. I'm certainly not the expert but I know the A course and C
course have
different sheep. And the sheep for the various runs of competition need to
be switched after so many runs. And, unlike agility and or rally
equipment the sheep need to be moved in, housed out of the elements, fed,
watered,
and the testing areas need to be certain physical sizes/lengths/etc. Now,
this information is coming from a student and I'm sure there are
instructors out there that can be more specific. But the cost is a LOT more
than if
you find a local facility near the national that already has sheep - the
right kind, the right numbers of, etc. etc.
We of course just need to know if it's worth the cost and I would imagine
every location would be different and then of course is it a venue we are
willing to do a break even or take a loss on in order to get it on site for
the show? I know we'll learn as we do this but I have a perfect example of
how we learn as we go:
Monday night when Kelly Malone got there with the sheep that were used for
the herding instinct they were unloaded into a round pen in the field.
The grounds crew at Springfield had been told their cattle fencing was not
going to hold the sheep and they needed to reinforce it. They did, with
flexible fencing - so the sheep walked into the round pen and proceeded to go
right out the bottom of the pen by leaning through the nice flexible fencing
it was lined with. So, to start with we have sheep all over the field.
Once they are gathered up(by GV Drummer no less) and put into the pens that
are under the tent we realize the inside corrals are not connected to each
other. With sheep again walking all over the field Kelly and I proceeded
to take the twine off the hay bales to tie the pens together. We were
there until midnight. The next day the grounds crew put bales of straw around
the outside perimeter of the pen to hold the sheep in and pins in the
corrals under the tent. I think we can laugh about it now but Monday night it
was not funny. I showed up with Burger King at 7ish for Kelly as she had
not eaten since morning but we were sitting there eating cold burgers and
fries many hours later.
I guess we tend to think a "fairgrounds" would have the right equipment
and ability to contain live animals but maybe not all of them. The grounds
people at Springfield were wonderful to work with - very customer service
oriented and nice - but I'm sure bringing the sheep to the Nationals cost a
lot more than taking the herding to the sheep.
I personally would like to see all the venues right there and be able to
move around to them all to at least watch if not participate in a few. It's
probably my only argument for picking one spot if the right one was ever
found. Until that point moving around to other locations seems like the
fair thing for all. Last, Like Sally, I'm expecting grief for writing this
but awe what to heck it's Sunday and I'm watching football.
Elaine Peters
Regency German Shepherds
Medina, OH
In a message dated 10/25/2009 1:29:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:50:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: National showsites
We love herding onsite. We would like to see the show and have everyone
see us also.
What is expensive is bringing in the sheep, assuming the facilities are
appropriate.
Ruth
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From: sally <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 8:47:18 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National showsites
I will probably get clobbered for this but here goes anyway
when ever anyone talks about the show site they always say " get herding
on
site" but it seems Herding wants to go else where. How long has it been
since all of herding was on site.
This may have just been a rumor but I heard at the national the Herding
site
cost a fortune this year. Don't know if this is true or not
Sally
www.embroiderybysally.org
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