In a message dated 8/19/2006 11:12:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Showgsd- showgsd-l Digest Sun, 20 Aug 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 2107 In This Issue: #1: From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: update on killer dog in coral spring fl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:09:46 -0400 From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: update on killer dog in coral spring fl I think you're missing the part about "incorrectly raised and handled." I don't think reasonable is exactly the correct word, anyway...perhaps "understandable" would be more appropriate..... There are people who can have these dogs, train them, and maintain them safely...there are others who enjoy the power and sheer toughness of these breeds, and who think they can always control them without putting much effort into it...therefore, the temperament is correct...it's the owner, AGAIN, AS USUAL, who's at fault...for letting the natural temperament control the dog instead of the owner shaping the temperament, which IS there, it IS part of those breeds, to make the dog fit to live in society. Peggy Falkrigia@xxxxxxx wrote: >In a message dated 8/20/2006 1:47:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes: > >><>I'd say it's reasonable offense for a dog that was incorrectly >>raised and >>handled, AND if you read up on the breed, it makes a bit more sense >>as well. >>Dogs like the Presa and Caucasian Mountain Dog are....odd in what their >>temperament requirements are as per the standard >>In a message dated 8/20/2006 12:43:51 AM Central Daylight Time, >>Falkrigia@xxxxxxx writes: >>How can you possibly consider this reasonable offense? >>If that is correct temperament for these breeds, then I personally am >>not >>sure they have a place in society. Any dog whose correct temperament >>is that it >>kill its owner for picking up a food dish........well.......... how >>many do you >>want in your backyard? >>Is it ok to kill the nextdoor neighbor child also for some imagined >>offense? >>Where do we draw the line at whom it can legitimately kill by >>claiming it to >>be it's correct temperament? >>Why are we so quick to excuse unexcusable actions? >>lynda > PEGGY and LYNDA: Regarding such Breeds...I I would just like to say, I could possibly train a Cobra by playing a Flute.. But God help me if I dropped the flute!!!! I do not think these Breeds belong in a world where they come in contact with humans. They are untrustworthy... Easily set off like faulty Fireworks... I must admit I am prejudicied here, with that attitude, because I once stood beside the bed and held the hand of my beautiful 6 year old Grandson, while the Plastic Surgeon in the ER sewed up his nostril and upper lip that were laying wide open, from a bite from an untrustworthy dog of a Hunting Breed... Any Dogs of Any Breed that React FIRST and THINK LATER, .. are a danger to themselves and others.. They are a far cry from those Protective , Guardian Ones who love and adore their Masters and are under complete control of that Master, because of that Love and Trust and Devotion, that is based on a two=way commitment and a Kind and Loving Trust of that Master....Not beaten into them nor trained with a Heavy Lead Hand.. Strictly JMO ..barb williams ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================