[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #1409
- From: culzeans1@xxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:08:29 -0400
I had a hard time deciding whether or not I would get into this discussion. I
only have one experience with any AI's We took our girl to a repo specialist
near Dallas. She had a physical before her season, all the blood work,
everything was fine. We did the progesterone tests, everything was a go. We did
the transcervical, watched it on the camera, the works, I was with her. I was
concerned that it wasn't sterile enough but was reassured that she(the vet)?had
done this with her own show dogs,Danes, for many years. I was concerned that
the sperm in the second straw looked "funny", we did fresh chilled and got it
shipped overnight, 3 times. Again, she said it didn't have the same motility as
the first but was still fine. Again, this was my first(and only) time. The 3 rd
straw was insisted on by the co-owner. Fine, ok, lets do it. Well the 3rd time
the straw looked much better and the vet checked the motility(?) and said it
was 87 %, great.
Well, long story short...no puppies and 5 months later my bitch is dead.
Myocarditis caused by a bacterical infection is what the ecropsy said. I can
not prove that the AI was the cause, but it is the only "different" thing in
her life. She was 4 yrs old and healthy.
I personally will never do another AI period, not implanted, not transcervical.
If I can't breed naturally, I will pass on the breeding. If I can't get my girl
to the male I want her with, the breeding won't happen.
This is not?a statement of what is right and what is wrong, this is my painful
experience and my own personal out look on AI's
Never say Never(which is what I named my Saydee)
Pam
Msg: #1 in digest
Subject: Re: Trans-cervical insemination
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:25:35 -0400
From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
I would like to comment on the whole bacteria fear.? What is my qualification??
I work for one of the top Labradors breeders in the country.? I have seen it
all, and been part of it, too.? I have attended reproduction seminars...thanks
to my boss:)
There will always be bacteria (normal) on the outside of the vagina, and rectum
of bitches.? Well, unless you scrub them thoroughly with a disinfectant prior
to
breeding - not a good idea.? There is bacteria (normal) on the male's rectum,
boy hairs, and penis.? How many of us have watched a male and female like each
others rectums, only to turn around and each others private parts?? How about
dogs who eat poop, and turn around and like their private parts, or your face?
Bacteria enters your girl's vagina when the male penatrates her, and the sperm
flow right through, and?into the cervix, naturally.?
We have had?numerous surgical implantations done, and, luckily, not one
resulted
in an infection.? I have no experience with Trans-Cervical AIs but would not
hesitate to have one don, if needed.? This is my choice.
We have performed countless A.I.s with no problems.
Each breeder should do what they feel is right for their dogs.? One procedure
may work better for one person but not another.? You have to find what works
for
you, and what you feel comfortable with it.
JMO
I hope? I said this so it makes sense.??? I couldn't locate the orginal post in
my email mess.
B Hively
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