Terry, That is funny!!!!...especially the suicide option...pm Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/) Ropaja German Shepherds: Member: GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta - BIS BISS Ch Ropaja's Chateau Beaujolais OFA HIC; BISS Ch Ropaja's Chateau Beaulieu OFA HIC; Ropaja's Viva L'Endimanche OFA. Our future: Ropaja's Je Suis Gabrielle; Ropaja's Je Suis Fleur De Lis. In a message dated 12/30/2008 9:46:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: showgsd-l Digest Tue, 30 Dec 2008 Volume: 02 Issue: 3681 In This Issue: #1: From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Crate them #2: From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Crate them #3: From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Crate them #4: From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Crate them #5: From: "Cyndi Flautt" <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: 2009 Eukanuba show GSD judge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:59:41 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Crate them I have to share this story with you all about 1991 and moving to what became Fairway German Shepherds. I moved in by myself as Kent was off on a job in Alaska. I had 2 dogs GG and Bear. GG was a very young female and Bear my constant companion. No one came between me and Bear. The neighbors didn't bother to come over an introduce themselves and I though that was fine. Then after a couple of weeks without incident Mr Neighbor came over an declared his chickens Livestock and that if my dogs killed one I would have to put them down. The Fun begins. Now here is a tip. If I ever move in next door to you this is not the way to have first contact with me. I live by the rule of Never getting mad. I get even because it is a lot more fun. Each day his Live stock Chickens would come over to eat the bugs in the field. Everyday I would send GG out to stir them up and everyday I would call the neighbor to come remove his Livestock Chickens from my field. Every day that summer I would sit on the deck drinking a beer and watch Mr. & Mrs Neighbor try to chase their chickens back to their own yard. :0) After the first month we came to an agreement. If my dogs went over to his house and killed chickens I would buy the chicken. If they came over and were killed in my field they committed suicide and no money was owed. I never had to buy one chicken the darn dogs loved them and they would roost on top of their kennels. I would gather eggs and set them on the other side of the fence. The eggs always disappeared. Terry ________________________________ From: Beryl <arelee_1020@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx; edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:12:33 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Crate them I have to agree with Penny on this. Once the neighbors start finding a reason, ANY reason to complain about your dogs, it will never end and it is likely to only get worse. Possibly worse than you ever imagined. Many years ago we lived in a residential area. My husband was an AKC lic. handler at the time, an owner dropped their dog off as we were loading the van to prepare to leave for a dog show circuit. We put the dog that just arrived into our back yard in a kennel, for a short time until we were packed and ready to leave. The dog was not making noise or causing any problem. The problem came when the neighbor's decided we were boarding dogs with out a license and called the police. The bottom line is if you are not complying with what ever the rules and regulations are in your neighborhood, your neighbor's can and will complain. They will usually do whatever necessary or possible to force the issue of you keeping dogs. Many people use bark collars or keep their dogs indoors with the Stereo playing, any number of things to distract from any noise. The laws in most area's are not in favor of keeping dogs, particularly if it becomes a disturbance to the neighborhood. Beryl Eshom Arelee Davis, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Crate them > Flower Boy, > I teach too and Forest, Brando and Jeddie are crated during the day. > Shotsy, Patcha, Boo-Boo and Justa are in kennels outside. I would say > crate them, although if these people don't like you, they will find > other ways to harass you. Billy and I owned our home in Marlboro > (where I teach) and we had a realtor next door who made our lives > miserable. We were taken to court twice and lost--it was the number > of dogs (7), not barking, odor or any other reason for her not liking > us. We had all the dogs crated during the day when I was in school-- > we ended up moving. Up here on the mountain, we have NO neighbors and > like it that way. Some people are just jerks. Good luck! > Penny ===========================================================================POS T is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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Possibly worse > than you ever imagined. > beryl is SO right! andy and i had one neighbor who first complained about all the "dog sex" going on in our yard. never mind that we had a 6 foot privacy fence and the woman was only about 5'2", so heaven only knows what she was standing on to peer over the fence, but andy and i handled all breedings outselves and there weren't enough to warrant that kind of response! when that didn't work, she filed destruction of property charges with the L.A. district attorney. she claimed that "our gopher" was digging up her yard. the d.a. threw the case out. andy and i moved. good luck! diane Diane Strasser Silstra German Shepherds ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco m00000025) ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:18:38 EST Subject: Re: Crate them In a message dated 12/30/08 5:00:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx writes: > If my dogs went over to his house and killed chickens I would buy the > chicken. If they came over and were killed in my field they committed suicide and > no money was owed. lol - suicidal chickens! that made me laugh. thanks, diane Diane Strasser Silstra German Shepherds ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco m00000025) ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Crate them Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:15:37 -0500 "Terry Cochran" <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> writes: The neighbors didn't bother to come over an introduce themselves and I though that was fine. Then after a couple of weeks without incident Mr Neighbor came over an declared his chickens Livestock and that if my dogs killed one I would have to put them down. Funny story, Terry! Reminds of when we first moved to our current location... We bought a house located on 6.5 acres. Everyone else in the neighborhood has between 10 and 50 acres, so the houses aren't real close together. One night a couple weeks after we moved in, this "wild" man shows up banging on the door saying that our dogs almost killed his dog and we owe him for the vet bills. Never met the man before. Turns out he lived through the woods behind our house. I told the guy it couldn't have been our dogs because they've never been off the property since we moved in. (We spent almost $15,000 fencing in 3.5 acres *before* we moved in.) Anyhow, the guy insisted it was our dogs that tried to kill his pooch. I asked what breed of dogs and he said "big black dogs." I told him that's not a breed, so name the breed. All he kept saying was "big black dogs." I asked him to come back later as I had just gotten a call that my father had died suddenly. (My father really had died an hour before the guy showed up.) The SOB refused to leave until he saw our "big black" dogs. I put the dogs on the porch and let the guy look at them through the French doors. I asked him if those were the dogs who attacked his dog. He answered yes. I then asked him if he'd like to take a closer look. As I started opening the door, the guy bolted. A week later, a friend of mine, who played in the guy's band, told me that the man found out that his dog was attacked by two black labs that a neighbor had decided to let run loose. These labs were wreaking havoc all over the neighborhood. Did the man apologize? Absolutely not! That was our introduction to the neighborhood. Moving doesn't always help. Jerks can be found anywhere. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Cochran" <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> To: <arelee_1020@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx>; <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Crate them I have to share this story with you all about 1991 and moving to what became Fairway German Shepherds. I moved in by myself as Kent was off on a job in Alaska. I had 2 dogs GG and Bear. GG was a very young female and Bear my constant companion. No one came between me and Bear. The neighbors didn't bother to come over an introduce themselves and I though that was fine. Then after a couple of weeks without incident Mr Neighbor came over an declared his chickens Livestock and that if my dogs killed one I would have to put them down. The Fun begins. Now here is a tip. If I ever move in next door to you this is not the way to have first contact with me. I live by the rule of Never getting mad. I get even because it is a lot more fun. Each day his Live stock Chickens would come over to eat the bugs in the field. Everyday I would send GG out to stir them up and everyday I would call the neighbor to come remove his Livestock Chickens from my field. Every day that summer I would sit on the deck drinking a beer and watch Mr. & Mrs Neighbor try to chase their chickens back to their own yard. :0) After the first month we came to an agreement. If my dogs went over to his house and killed chickens I would buy the chicken. If they came over and were killed in my field they committed suicide and no money was owed. I never had to buy one chicken the darn dogs loved them and they would roost on top of their kennels. I would gather eggs and set them on the other side of the fence. The eggs always disappeared. Terry ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: "Cyndi Flautt" <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: 2009 Eukanuba show GSD judge Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:45:12 -0600 It would also be really nice if AKC would move Eukanuba to weeknights like Westminster so as not to draw from other clusters around the country. Cyndi Flautt President, Brandon KC of Mississippi (one of the clubs whose shows are that weekend) -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:50 PM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: GSDCALegislative@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2009 Eukanuba show GSD judge Is there some reason the AKC can't move its butt out of Long Beach for this event........? Esp. when you consider how animal UNFRIENDLY Long Beach is? Not that I'd ever want to attend .....but there are people who think this show is a big deal.......and next year it's open to anyone...... Peggy > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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