[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V2 #2638
- From: culzeans1@xxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:52:40 -0400
Thanks Jeff, I read that and thought they were talking about Sweepstakes and
futurities, so I went back and re read it. Now that I am aware, my dogs will
not have any bodifier, just shampoo and a blowdry. And if blowdrying is against
the rules I guess that will have to go. I never would have considered?products
such as bodifiers as illegal because everyone does it. I have done it. I have
bought the products at shows.??We probably should enforce all the rules and not
rely on AKC to do it. You guys can take back Saydee's 4th place at the futurity
if you want as I know ignorance of the law is no excuse. Same for the others
there who used products like bodifier or hairspray.
So let's all make a pact to only show CLEAN dogs, no hair products, just soap
and water and maybe a quick blow dry!? Wow how cool will that be? We will have
once again wash n wear dogs! Maybe it will catch on and our Westminster will
be.....well Krufts 2.(ugh, I am not sure about that)?Think how much spare time
handlers will have!
Really, I think dyeing is terrible. Bad for the dog, bad for the breed. Rich
pigment is all you need and if the judge has a problem with the grizzling down
a shepherds back he or she needs to remind themselves of our dogs standard and
acceptable colors. I actually like how that looks on my Reese, she has a great
rich saddle with grizzling and red/tan. Nothing faded about her. If the dog is
faded, but otherwise perfect, weigh the faults and place the dog where they
belong. It is simple quit making it complicated. Like Laura said cancer is much
more important, if everyone is for drug/dye testing get it passed and do it. In
fact we don't have to get it passed, it is already there, just enforce it. I
volunteer me and my dogs for it.
Ok I am going back to reading the rules for when I become a judge!
Pam
Msg: #6 in digest
Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V2 #2627
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:29:16 -0400
From: caggra@xxxxxxx
Page 47 - Section 8 of the Rules apply to Dog Shows -??
It is a PDF on the AKC site, so I could not copy and paste.? If you go to
www.akc.org and search for "Foreign Substances" the pdf comes up, go to page 47
at the bottom.?
It states that any substance that can improve or change the dogs natural
appearance is forbidden.? It even states that substances, drugs etc that are
absolutely?essential for the dogs health and comfort?are?cause for
disqualification?IF they can improve or change the dogs appearance.?
Jeff
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From: culzeans1@xxxxxxx
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V2 #2627
ok, I think this is kind of long so please bear with me.
I want to know where the rules against hairspray, mousse and bodifier is. Here
is what I read, please tell me where any other rules are that apply.
Rules dismissals
(R) Change in Appearance,Disqualification A dog which has been changed in
appearance by artifical means exept as specified in the standard for its breed.
may not compete at any show and is to be disqualified. Chapter 11 section 8b.
A dog is considered? changed in appearance by artificial means if it has been
subjected to any type of proceedure that has the effect of obscuring, diquising
or eliminating any congenitial or hereditary abnormlity or any undesirable
characteristic or anything that improves a dog's natural appearance,
temperament, bite or gait.
In addition, the insertion of any type of apparatus in the mouth of a dog
disqualifies that dog from competition in dog shows and subjects anyone who
exhibits, or causes to be exhibited, such dog to disciplinary action.
(R) Color: You have the clear authority under Chapter 11 section 8C of the
Rules
to withold awards from any dog which in your opinion has had its natural color
or markings changed. The handler or the owner or both of any d
og or dogs from
which any award has been withheld for violation of this sction of the rules, or
any judge who shall fail to perform his duties under this section shall be
subject to disciplinary action.
This is on page 20 and 21 of the rules, policies and guidelines for
conformation
show judges.? In the rules for dog shows it is in chapter 14 section 6. I don't
see anything regarding hairspray, mousse or bodifier, only if it changes the
dogs color or markings as set by their standard. It doesn't even really address
chalk or whitening
Have I missed something? Do I need to read some other rules? What am I missing?
Where is everyone seeing these rules at?
Pam
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