Zoa, I very much agree with you. In my limited experience I have to say I think a great handler is one who deals honestly with you and the dog. If they can be with your dog and the dog wants to perform for them. I also don't want a handler who doesn't want to give an honest evaluation of my dog. I can take being told the dog isn't quite what I think it is, I dislike dishonesty.? I think you are right it boils down to relationship skills. This is why I like Ashley. As a junior she show integrity, honesty and an ability to form good working relationships with the dogs and people. She is one very talented handler and will be known as one of the "greats" in the future. We are fortunate to have some really really great junior handlers in the shepherd ring. Pam Msg: #4 in digest Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: The difference between handlers Interesting question.? I am going to skip over the skills?involved in?excellent presentation of the dog, as I'm sure others will deal with those.? To me, two things separate a technician from a great handler and they both deal with?the handler's ability to establish and maintain relationships.? The first relationship is with the dog.? Some?handlers just make dogs "sparkle" in the ring because the dog loves working with that handler even when the owner is not there to double.? I can't take my eyes off a beautiful dog working with its handler like that.? Jimmy and Dallas come to mind.? I can take my eyes off a beautiful dog with a lackluster attitude in the ring.? The second relationship is with the owner.? I want honesty, integrity, good sportsmanship at events, and a sense of humor.? I also want my handler to help me network when he or she feels it would be beneficial to me.? I enjoy socializing with my handler and others at shows.? I don't want a handler to lie to me about the worth of my dog and then use my dog as the gas dog for the Fla Circuit, for?example.? I am also not interested in drama and temper tantrums at shows.? So,?the difference?between good and great boils down to relationship skills for me! ?Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================