I think this is correct temperament. No fear, no aggression but will answer Any threat with an OH Yeah??? If my dog got grabbed hard in the mouth and I did not correct the judge or person doing that, I would expect my dog to tell that person. I would not expect a bite from my dog but I think any one of my dogs, male or female and over the age of about 10-11 months would let the person know, especially if I or my handler did not ask the judge to be easier( I know the judge is god and we shouldn't do that, but how else will the judge know?). ?and I would not care if I got dumped, because my dog would know I or the handler has his back and can be trusted to handle these situations and there is no need for him to react. I know I haven't been under a ton of judges but I have to say while I have disagreed with some picks, I have not seen but one or 2 who were IMO too rough. I have seen them afraid of the dogs, which I think is kind of a dangerous place for the judge to be and at th e same time amusing. Again I am fairly new at this and I am more concerned with my dog than the judges feelings. JMO Pam Oh and btw, in my opinion as a realitively newcomer and this being the 1st national I will attend, I am doing so because it is close enough to go to AND people have reached out and said " Welcome, come and have a good time!"?? I believe though it was the welcome more than the location of the national, I tried for Co last year but do to a family illness could not make it.?? Put out the welcome mat and I think people will find a way to get there. >*A few years back there was a judge who was notorious for being rough on mouths. He grabbed a big, champion male a bit too hard, and that dog backed him up a few paces. He did not bite, but he became very threatening with hackles raised.I saw this happen. I will say this for the judge: he gave the dog the breed. I suppose he could have dumped him, but he was obviously the best dog there. Also, the dog was just answering what he thought was a threat. Doris Estabrook P.S. I never saw this judge get rough on a mouth check after that happened.* ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================