[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #249

  • From: "William Burggraaf" <wjbj2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:44:47 -0600

Kelly
Contact the AKC Show Events and they will follow up with a letter to the
Judge to correct it.
I have had this happen twice this year with my Eng. Cocker in group
placements.
Bill Burggraaf


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> showgsd-l Digest Wed, 01 Dec 2004 Volume: 01  Issue: 249
>
> In This Issue:
> #1: From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
> #2: From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ???Show results marked wrong
> #3: From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ???Show results marked wrong/more
> #4: From: RihadinK9@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: mentors
> #5: From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: This is today, yesterday is what you chose to rememb
> #6: From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: We have other issues
> #7: From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: mentors
> #8: From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sleeping with the judge
> #9: From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: mentors
> #10: From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Today for now and yesterday for whatever you want it
> #11: From: "irrenhaus4" <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
> #12: From: LSelmon@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: mentors
> #13: From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Today for now and yesterday for whatever you want it
> #14: From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
> #15: From: TCYPRESS@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: <showgsd> DONATIONS PLEASE
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Msg: #1 in digest
> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:02:06 -0500
> From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
>
> Now it looks as though the plan is out of control, and we are inundated
with
> dog shows.  Remember the old saying about "too much of a good thing?"
> Doris Estabrook
> *************************************************
>
> If a club had a Spring and Fall Show and now have two spring/fall shows
back to back how does this change the number of shows.  Our club was paired
with BR and we had two shows in the Spring and two show in the fall. When we
decided to go back to back all that changed is that our club has two shows
in the spring and BR had two in the fall. Still 4 shows per year in our
area.  We have now gone to only 3 shows on one weekend. BR only has one show
per year with our two back to back shows in February.
> Same thing with the AB club here we would have a show with Louisiana
Kennel Club twice a year now we go back to back in the Spring and they go
back to back in the fall. Still only 4 shows.
>
>
> Lee Brown
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #2 in digest
> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:06:53 -0500
> From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ???Show results marked wrong
>
> The judge wrote down the wrong number on her sheet.  They told me I
> have to contact the AKC to get this corrected.  Scott did have a picture
> taken with the judge and the sign said WB, BOS and major win.  He also
saved
> the ribbons.  Does anyone know who I contact at the AKC to get this
> corrected?  Has anyone ever had this happen?  I want to get it taken care
of
> ASAP, especially since it was a major.  Please e-mail me any information
> that can help me resolve this.  Thanks in advance...
> Kelly
>
> *************************************************
>
> Probably your best way to correct this is to contact the judge. She/He can
contact the ring steward and verify that they made an error and they can fax
the AKC advising them of their error.  This has happened to me and that is
how I corrected the problem.
> Lately I find ring stewards that give me a card with information on how to
contact them. I think this is a good idea and I make sure I keep that card
in case I need to reach them.
>
> Lee Brown
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #3 in digest
> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:08:44 -0500
> From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ???Show results marked wrong/more
>
> The judge wrote down the wrong number on her sheet.  They told me I
> have to contact the AKC to get this corrected.  Scott did have a picture
> taken with the judge and the sign said WB, BOS and major win.  He also
saved
> the ribbons.  Does anyone know who I contact at the AKC to get this
> corrected?  Has anyone ever had this happen?  I want to get it taken care
of
> ASAP, especially since it was a major.  Please e-mail me any information
> that can help me resolve this.  Thanks in advance...
> Kelly
>
> ***********************************************
> Kelly,
>
> With this happening you may want to make a point to look at the copies of
the judges sheets that are posted when you win to make sure it is correct.
It is easier to get this corrected at the show.  Just a thought.
>
> Lee
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #4 in digest
> From: RihadinK9@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:14:22 EST
> Subject: Re: mentors
>
>
>
>
> Who was  your most significant mentor and what was the most valuable
> information he/she  gave you-Kris
>
>
>
>
>
> Never had a mentor - in any breed I've been involved in.   Everything I've
> learned I learned on my own.
>
> Ginger  Cleary, Dallas, GA_ http://www.rihadin.com _
> (http://www.rihadin.com/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law/_
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law/)    Just because you do not take
an interest in politics doesn't mean
> politics won't  take an interest in you. -Pericles (430 B.C.)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #5 in digest
> From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:14:47 EST
> Subject: Re: This is today, yesterday is what you chose to rememb
>
> I agree with Evan's take. However
> Today is still yesterdays tomorrow  and tomorrow is yesterdays  today
>  Or something like that.LOL
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #6 in digest
> From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:20:44 EST
> Subject: Re: We have other issues
>
> To bad they aren't all like him
>                 SallyHH
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #7 in digest
> From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:21:27 EST
> Subject: Re: mentors
>
> I was very fortunate to have had a number of old timers as mentors. It
seems
> like just yesterday that i was trying to gleen gems of information from
Mary
> Kirtland of Scotmar Shepherds,Barb Williams of Santana Shepherds,Phil and
> Bertie Friedberg,Philberlyn Shepherds,Ray and Adele Johnson,Del Rey
Shepherds,Ruth
> Schreifer and a few others. They were all very willing to freely share
their
> experience and knowledge. I try to be as helpfull to the new people of
today as
> my mentors  were with me . Unfortunately some of the new people seem to
think
> they know everything there is to know about our breed in just a very few
> years. Maybe i'm just a slow learner, but i consider it a wasted day if i
don't
> learn something new every day and on some days i even learn something from
a
> newbie.     Bud
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #8 in digest
> From: SallyHH31@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:25:43 EST
> Subject: Re: sleeping with the judge
>
> I could name some from the sixties that was said about    LOL
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #9 in digest
> From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:28:14 EST
> Subject: Re: mentors
>
> After reading the message i just posted, i realized that all the people i
> listed except Barb, Ray and myself, are the only ones still alive. DAMN
I'M
> GETTING OLD!!! LOL    Bud
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #10 in digest
> From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:29:54 EST
> Subject: Re: Today for now and yesterday for whatever you want it
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2004 6:13:05 AM Central Standard Time,
> Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
> Ohhhh  come on! You're wrong Evan. The health of this breed is NOT better
> from "years  ago".
> I definately agree with Evan - I think the health of the breed is better
then
> it use to be.  There are some things we can only hope to quite down some
we
> will never get rid of all health problems .  Heck look at humans.  Find a
cure
> for one thing and it mutates into something worse
>
> Sally
>
> The House of Nasdaq ROM
> Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex
>
> http://danann.netfirms.com
> http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #11 in digest
> From: "irrenhaus4" <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:35:04 -0800
>
> Working as much as I do in the Awards Magazine, I see some all breed clubs
> with more than just 2 shows. Also, there are more Specialty clubs now. And
> it is not just the number of shows, it is the constantly increasing
expense
> of showing a dog.
> Rather daunting for a newcomer to be told that it will cost them in excess
> of sixty dollars to have their dog handled, and heaven forbid that they
> win!!  Handling a dog is a skill, and not everyone can show their own dog
to
> its potential.  So I feel the high cost of exhibiting is having a definite
> effect on show attendance.
> Doris
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx>
> To: <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx>;
> <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:02 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
>
>
> > Now it looks as though the plan is out of control, and we are inundated
> > with
> > dog shows.  Remember the old saying about "too much of a good thing?"
> > Doris Estabrook
> > *************************************************
> >
> > If a club had a Spring and Fall Show and now have two spring/fall shows
> > back to back how does this change the number of shows.  Our club was
> > paired with BR and we had two shows in the Spring and two show in the
> > fall. When we decided to go back to back all that changed is that our
club
> > has two shows in the spring and BR had two in the fall. Still 4 shows
per
> > year in our area.  We have now gone to only 3 shows on one weekend. BR
> > only has one show per year with our two back to back shows in February.
> > Same thing with the AB club here we would have a show with Louisiana
> > Kennel Club twice a year now we go back to back in the Spring and they
go
> > back to back in the fall. Still only 4 shows.
> >
> >
> > Lee Brown
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #12 in digest
> From: LSelmon@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:36:38 EST
> Subject: Re: mentors
>
> Mary Tripp is one of the best friends anyone can have. A true keeper of
the
> breed. I am so lucky to have all the wonderful mentors I have had. This is
a
> wonderful breed with the BEST people in the world in it. FORGET about the
> others. Just enjoy the good side.
> Linda Selmon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #13 in digest
> From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:39:50 EST
> Subject: Re: Today for now and yesterday for whatever you want it
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2004 9:35:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> Danannkennel@xxxxxxx writes:
> Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
> Ohhhh  come on! You're wrong Evan.  The health of this breed is NOT better
> from "years   ago".
>
>
>
> I didn't write that part, Colleen Donnelly did.  I wrote this  part:
>
>
>
> For what it's worth, I think it depends on what corner of the world
you're
> playing in and the enthusiasts (read breeders) you associate with.   IME
many,
> many people are honest and forthright and do their level best to avoid
> perpetuating health issues.  Unfortunately, some do not and until you
learn  who is
> who...well...it can be a bumpy road.  Been there:(
>
> Kathy
>
> visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd  Dogs_
> (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #14 in digest
> From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:06:05 EST
> Subject: Re: Interesting Article in Dogs in Review
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2004 8:40:18 AM Central Standard Time,
> irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Rather daunting for a newcomer to be told that it will cost them in excess
> of sixty dollars to have their dog handled, and heaven forbid that they
> win!!  Handling a dog is a skill, and not everyone can show their own dog
to
> its potential.  So I feel the high cost of exhibiting is having a definite
> effect on show attendance.
> ++++++++++++++++
> $60 would be a going out of business sale
> Sally
>
> The House of Nasdaq ROM
> Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex
>
> http://danann.netfirms.com
> http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Msg: #15 in digest
> From: TCYPRESS@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:15:36 EST
> Subject: Re: <showgsd> DONATIONS PLEASE
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2004 12:23:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCHARO1
> writes:
> TOMMY
> I am disgusted.  When did this list become a place to bash people.
> What a shame!
> JUST TEASING AND ADDING SOME HUMOR TO THE PAST POSTS.LIGHTEN UP YOUR
> TIGHT.THERE'S A LITTLE HUMOR IN EVERYTHING.
>
> TOM
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of showgsd-l Digest V1 #249
> *******************************
>
>
>


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