Oh yes...in November I shipped a bitch home (here to Utah) from Seattle after being bred, and in good shape she weighs 63#...she's a little thing! Airline people in Seattle demanded a 500 crate. Stud dog owner had no choice, had to buy one and send her in it. Cost me about $415 to get her home. Airline people said it was because her ears touched the top of the 400 crate. So if she'd been a Golden or a Lab, a 400 would have been fine...but since she has prick ears, lots of extra cost. It's a consequence of PETA and their ilk, guys...We need to fight the PETAphiles on every front while we still can, before they take away what few rights we have left with our dogs. Liz in Utah Visit my website at http://hometown.aol.com/rckyiizard/index.html ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================