In a message dated 3/17/05 9:06:56 PM Central Standard Time, dfritsche@xxxxxxxxx writes: Correct! Not there. Nor is dull, boring, or lackluster for that matter. Attitude is, I had always though, not something that is present of absent but something that we all have, as do our dogs. It may not be a matter of "do they have an attitude" but what kind do they have. From that perspective, I just sort of enjoy a dog who is motivated and moving and seemingly having fun with it (I really do not know whither they are or not, except know mine have always enjoyed it). I guess it is just a matter of, well, attitude about attitude.... For mine, if they do not get excited about it, I will not drag them around the ring.... That's my attitude, and I'm keeping it! <G> From a different perspective..... Dave Very well put Dave. Attitude is present in all dogs, and their handlers/owners as well. Some good, some bad. I kinda like the word "heart". Randy Chesnut ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================