Thanks, Dave. I knew if I was wrong someone would correct me. However, it still sounds like AKC has the last word. LOL Since they have to approve it, they always have that option to say "NO". :-) Lee Brown Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone thinks of me. In a message dated 10/28/2013 12:01:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx writes: Hi Lee... I think it is the other way around, but then I have been wrong a few times in my life...<grin> I think AKC does not set standards, they only approve that which is presented by the parent clubs, thus, GSDCA sets the standard and owns it and AKC simply adopts it. AKC only sets rules on how the standard is arrived at and how it can be changed. Dave Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re oppose GSD standard revision Also, if I am not mistaken the standard is owned by the AKC and not the GSDCA so anyone can sign the petition. (if i am wrong I am sure someone will correct me) No need to be a member of the GSDCA to sign and oppose the change. Lee Brown Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone thinks of me. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================