how silly and arrogant! no conscientious breeder thinks "It is easier to throw hand up in the air and sat "stuff happens", "there are no perfect dogs"." (again, READ your posts before you send them.) if the point were to get the conversation back to helen's original point, this is one hell of a convoluted way to do it. "more than a few" is not the majority. there were problems 3 decades ago. there are problems now. there will be problems in 2043. again, just silly. enough said. to waste any more time on this conversation would be equally silly. diane ================================================================ Pinehills wrote: What I UNDERSTAND is that it is easier to quibble over a book than to admit problems. It is easier to throw hand up in the air and sat "stuff happens", "there are no perfect dogs". I was responding to what Helen wrote and trying to get the conversation back to where it was started by Helen. Three decades ago average life spans of more than a few litters WERE 12+ years. If you think that is the case today I have a pretty gold bridge to offer too. Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _Skatiebug'z_ (http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/) The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com_ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) Skater's Blog ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================