Yes, there are great things that do appear here and make me optimistic about the focus of the List, but then the next post ruins it. And for those who arrogantly say"get out of the kitchen," it's not the heat of the kitchen that's intolerable, it's the stench of the cooks! It is up to the rest of us to change the current situation. Charlie Moore Lovestead Farm ++++++++++++++++++++ Hi Charlie, When you think that the "next" post is going to ruin it for you, delete it--it's what I do and it works! LOL Seriously, you've raised many good points--don't let "the stench of the cooks" get to you. Look to "the good." penny ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================