i received this info from a friend when i mentioned the subject to her: "Years ago, a gal I knew had a bitch she bred. When the bitch was like (senior moment) 2 - 3 weeks in whelp, she broke out in a rash. She took her to her local vet, not her regular one. The vet gave the bitch a shot. When the litter was born, the gal thought the males were missing testicles. The litter appeared to be all males. When she took them to her regular vet and told him about the shot, he knew immediately what happened. She worked at the library and researched. She found articles on what happened. The shot was a steroid. When a steroid is given so early in pregnancy, it masculates the females. Upon inspection of the missing testicle males, the vulva had moved forward to the penis position and was covered with a penal flap covering it. There was an empty testicle sack in the proper place." has anyone heard of this before? diane Diane Strasser Silstra German Shepherds "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Roger Caras ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================